Pentagon Labyrinth

Join Dan Grazier, POGO’s senior defense fellow, for a wide-ranging series of conversations on national security issues ranging from military health care to weapons acquisition to military training. In each episode, Dan takes a deep dive into a single topic with an expert guest. Listen in on discussions with military historians, authors, journalists, and others who offer their insights to help guide us through The Pentagon Labyrinth.  

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“Who Killed Lt. Van Dorn?”

“Who Killed Lt. Van Dorn?”

Navy Lieutenant Wes Van Dorn raised concerns for years about the safety of the MH-53E helicopters in his squadron. Aging...

January 07, 2019 |Podcast

Jamie Schwandt, Grading the Army’s Staff College

Jamie Schwandt, Grading the Army’s Staff College

After receiving his grades from the Army’s Command and General Staff College, Major Jamie Schwandt decided to assign his own...

August 03, 2018 |Podcast

Jeff Groom, Disillusioned Helicopter Pilot

Jeff Groom, Disillusioned Helicopter Pilot

Jeff Groom, a former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, recently published a highly satirical, and occasionally irreverent, account of his experiences...

June 26, 2018 |Podcast